The end of the world? No... just the next day.
One wonders if this was intentional too?
Published on February 3, 2007 By Lotherius In Bugs
Okay, so I have a LOT of files on a LOT of hard disks... One thing I discovered really quickly is that files with an other other than the current user will give problems. So one of the first steps on a new Vista system is to head off into the deep depths of many hard drives, and take "ownership" of all the files under your main user's name. This eliminates many of the UAC (User Account Control) Nag Screens... However, not all. Some refuse to go away, and just make no sense.

Take this for example:
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Click on it, blow up the image to be readable... and notice, for example, the error message "Destination Folder Access Denied".. Clicking continue will prompt me for UAC to elevate to Administrator priveledges. Except... I shouldn't NEED them. I'm renaming a file that I OWN... See the second dialogue box - I've entered my current user in, and it shows that the effective permissions are "Full Control".. that is because I used the security properties to take control of the who tree of folders. Yet, it still claims access denied.

I've seen this pop up in a few other places as well. I had one program that crashed out when it was given Access Denied to write some of its temporary files into the standard windows temporary directory! I ran it a second time, and somehow, it got permission.

MS needs to hotfix this kind of issue, or people WILL turn off UAC, not just make it less annoying as I already have. I've got lots of files to rename, and I don't want two clicks for each rename, but Vista is making me do it, even though I own the files. I COULD turn off UAC long enough to do the file ops, then turn it back on - but THAT requires a reboot.

What other kinds of UAC problems are lurking about out there?

Comments
on Feb 13, 2007
I got so frustrated trying to delete files as the Administrator I just turned off UAC. I'm not that worried about Virii or Malware. Even with UAC turned off some files simply cannot be deleted. UGH!
on Feb 13, 2007
It also creates files with permissions structures that CAN'T BE FIXED from XP. OOPS! I have to reinstall a Vista test partition just to clear up an old, well, test partition...DOH! 8P
on Feb 26, 2007
I got to find out how to turn of UAC.

As an Adminstrator I tried to convert my external harddrive Vista claimed, I did not have access rights!!! This after Vista complained how it does not like FAT32.
on Mar 21, 2007
hey i know how to turn off uac

1. Click on the Start Button and go to the Control Panel.
2. In the Control Panel search box, search for "disable uac".
3. Click on Turn User Account Control (UAC) on or off.
4. Uncheck Use User Account Control (UAC) to help protect your computer.
5. Hit OK.

by the way i got this from steve sinchak's (awesome guy) website (one of his many)

Tweakvista.com

P.S. can anybody show me how to hack, like passwords
my dad's the administrator and he made me a limited user and i also want to turn off uac
SO ANNOYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
anyway, reply
on Mar 21, 2007
P.S. can anybody show me how to hack, like passwords
my dad's the administrator and he made me a limited user and i also want to turn off uac


Wouldn't count on it, that kind of stuff isn't exactly supported here.
on Mar 21, 2007
See? that's probably why he made you a limited user.   
on Mar 21, 2007
In soviet Russia , files set your permission!
on Mar 22, 2007
I had the exact the same Problems. Vista would not allow me to delete folders I just had created half an hour earlier, claiming I didn't have permission to do so!!


.....bye bye UAC, you won't be missed.
on Mar 22, 2007
See? that's probably why he made you a limited user.


lol

on Mar 22, 2007
Unfortunately, disabling UAC alone will not fix file permission problems...

The best solution I've found yet is the TakeOwn registry hack... it allows you to Shift-Right Click, then do a "Take Ownership" from the menu which automates much of the tedium in taking ownership of a file in Vista... (the shift is so you get an "elevated" right click, meh)

You can find it here: http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=499870 though you'll need to dig down into the message as there are a LOT of tips/tricks posted.


on Mar 22, 2007
Unfortunately, disabling UAC alone will not fix file permission problems...


Agreed. In ultimate, like Server 2k3 and 2000, NT etc, you need to go into control panel administrator tools local security policies and set the over ride for administrator accounts to install things like drivers etc.

Vista misidentified (No, really?) my linksys wireless card as a Broadcom and would not let me update the driver to save my life until I set permissions.